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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#21 Post by Aufgeblssen47 » Thu May 16, 2019 9:24 am

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Acceleration will also depend on the vehicles power to weight ratio (the new exhaust would drop the vehicles weight), friction (quality of your tires), and many more factors. It's not just simple physics. Using a theoretical formula looks good on paper or a test. As long as they remain in the elastic region of the chart it will be linear, so if proper tuning kept the whatever is being elongated in that region it will be fine. Nice research though. But an increase is an increase as you admitted, whether it's worth the $500-$600 was not part of the discussion and it goes back to what I said earlier on who it matters to.
Comparing apples & apples. If you add more power, and add say, towing a trailer and your new acceleration is the same as before, you are STILL adding additional stress & strain to your engine.

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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#22 Post by RykerRyker52 » Thu May 16, 2019 12:26 pm

Aufgeblssen47 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 9:24 am
Galded wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:28 am
Acceleration will also depend on the vehicles power to weight ratio (the new exhaust would drop the vehicles weight), friction (quality of your tires), and many more factors. It's not just simple physics. Using a theoretical formula looks good on paper or a test. As long as they remain in the elastic region of the chart it will be linear, so if proper tuning kept the whatever is being elongated in that region it will be fine. Nice research though. But an increase is an increase as you admitted, whether it's worth the $500-$600 was not part of the discussion and it goes back to what I said earlier on who it matters to.
Comparing apples & apples. If you add more power, and add say, towing a trailer and your new acceleration is the same as before, you are STILL adding additional stress & strain to your engine.
You sir are getting off topic again, Most people own a truck to haul their trailer. I'm not engineer but its less stress on that vehicle. No chart required. No placebo required. Just american made exhaust systems for our Ryker when the options are limited right now. you should be stoked that more options are coming for the ryker but your not. I guess you cant please everyone..

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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#23 Post by Ryk600 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:27 pm

Aufgeblssen47 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:40 am
Ryk600 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 11:14 pm
To each their own. If the engine is tuned right, the overall life will not be effected.
That might be true, if stress vs. strain on metallic parts were linear. But it is not.

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I'm not gonna get into an argument. I went to engineering school for this stuff and was a certified mechanic for a dealership for a few years and worked on many of the performance vehicles the dealership sold. The extra wear with a performance exhaust comes from it not being installed and/or tuned properly and the driver driving the vehicle harder (i.e. they want to hear their exhaust so they rev it all the time, stay at higher rpms purposely, etc.)

Obviously engines can handle only so much stress. So throwing something like a turbo or supercharger on the engine changes things if the engine wasn't designed for it. A small increase in power output from an exhaust is not going to change the long term health of the engine, once again as long as it's installed correctly and maintained properly.

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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#24 Post by RykerRyker52 » Fri May 17, 2019 11:22 am

Ryk600 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 1:27 pm
Aufgeblssen47 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:40 am
Ryk600 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 11:14 pm
To each their own. If the engine is tuned right, the overall life will not be effected.
That might be true, if stress vs. strain on metallic parts were linear. But it is not.

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I'm not gonna get into an argument. I went to engineering school for this stuff and was a certified mechanic for a dealership for a few years and worked on many of the performance vehicles the dealership sold. The extra wear with a performance exhaust comes from it not being installed and/or tuned properly and the driver driving the vehicle harder (i.e. they want to hear their exhaust so they rev it all the time, stay at higher rpms purposely, etc.)

Obviously engines can handle only so much stress. So throwing something like a turbo or supercharger on the engine changes things if the engine wasn't designed for it. A small increase in power output from an exhaust is not going to change the long term health of the engine, once again as long as it's installed correctly and maintained properly.
You Sir are actually an engineer. HAHA :lol:

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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#25 Post by Aufgeblssen47 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:11 pm

RykerRyker52 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:22 am
Ryk600 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 1:27 pm
Aufgeblssen47 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:40 am


That might be true, if stress vs. strain on metallic parts were linear. But it is not.

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I'm not gonna get into an argument. I went to engineering school for this stuff and was a certified mechanic for a dealership for a few years and worked on many of the performance vehicles the dealership sold. The extra wear with a performance exhaust comes from it not being installed and/or tuned properly and the driver driving the vehicle harder (i.e. they want to hear their exhaust so they rev it all the time, stay at higher rpms purposely, etc.)

Obviously engines can handle only so much stress. So throwing something like a turbo or supercharger on the engine changes things if the engine wasn't designed for it. A small increase in power output from an exhaust is not going to change the long term health of the engine, once again as long as it's installed correctly and maintained properly.
You Sir are actually an engineer. HAHA :lol:
Actually, yes! Worked most recently working at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station for 7 years, launching Atlas & Titan rockets, but for 8 years after that, was a truck driver (actually owner-operator).

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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#26 Post by KC61 » Fri May 17, 2019 1:09 pm

So truck drivers can launch rocket's, I knew it.

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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#27 Post by Aufgeblssen47 » Fri May 17, 2019 3:58 pm

KC61 wrote:
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So truck drivers can launch rocket's, I knew it.
Other way around.

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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#28 Post by slingmods » Sat May 18, 2019 8:38 pm

Two Brothers reached out to us on Friday. We will be doing a video comparing the sounds on both our Ryker 600 & 900 in both stock form and with the two bros installed for those of you that may be interested. Stay tuned....
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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#29 Post by Aufgeblssen47 » Sun May 19, 2019 5:09 am

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Sat May 18, 2019 8:38 pm
Two Brothers reached out to us on Friday. We will be doing a video comparing the sounds on both our Ryker 600 & 900 in both stock form and with the two bros installed for those of you that may be interested. Stay tuned....
Audio captured/recorded sounds quite a bit different that hearing it live.

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Re: Two Brothers Racing Exhaust

#30 Post by slingmods » Mon May 20, 2019 8:58 am

Aufgeblssen47 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 5:09 am
slingmods wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 8:38 pm
Two Brothers reached out to us on Friday. We will be doing a video comparing the sounds on both our Ryker 600 & 900 in both stock form and with the two bros installed for those of you that may be interested. Stay tuned....
Audio captured/recorded sounds quite a bit different that hearing it live.
This is true Auf, but the audio differences are quite substantial and beneficial to someone on the fence about making the buying decision.
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