Comparing apples & apples. If you add more power, and add say, towing a trailer and your new acceleration is the same as before, you are STILL adding additional stress & strain to your engine.Galded wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 8:28 amAcceleration will also depend on the vehicles power to weight ratio (the new exhaust would drop the vehicles weight), friction (quality of your tires), and many more factors. It's not just simple physics. Using a theoretical formula looks good on paper or a test. As long as they remain in the elastic region of the chart it will be linear, so if proper tuning kept the whatever is being elongated in that region it will be fine. Nice research though. But an increase is an increase as you admitted, whether it's worth the $500-$600 was not part of the discussion and it goes back to what I said earlier on who it matters to.
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You sir are getting off topic again, Most people own a truck to haul their trailer. I'm not engineer but its less stress on that vehicle. No chart required. No placebo required. Just american made exhaust systems for our Ryker when the options are limited right now. you should be stoked that more options are coming for the ryker but your not. I guess you cant please everyone..Aufgeblssen47 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:24 amComparing apples & apples. If you add more power, and add say, towing a trailer and your new acceleration is the same as before, you are STILL adding additional stress & strain to your engine.Galded wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 8:28 amAcceleration will also depend on the vehicles power to weight ratio (the new exhaust would drop the vehicles weight), friction (quality of your tires), and many more factors. It's not just simple physics. Using a theoretical formula looks good on paper or a test. As long as they remain in the elastic region of the chart it will be linear, so if proper tuning kept the whatever is being elongated in that region it will be fine. Nice research though. But an increase is an increase as you admitted, whether it's worth the $500-$600 was not part of the discussion and it goes back to what I said earlier on who it matters to.
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I'm not gonna get into an argument. I went to engineering school for this stuff and was a certified mechanic for a dealership for a few years and worked on many of the performance vehicles the dealership sold. The extra wear with a performance exhaust comes from it not being installed and/or tuned properly and the driver driving the vehicle harder (i.e. they want to hear their exhaust so they rev it all the time, stay at higher rpms purposely, etc.)Aufgeblssen47 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:40 amThat might be true, if stress vs. strain on metallic parts were linear. But it is not.
Obviously engines can handle only so much stress. So throwing something like a turbo or supercharger on the engine changes things if the engine wasn't designed for it. A small increase in power output from an exhaust is not going to change the long term health of the engine, once again as long as it's installed correctly and maintained properly.
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You Sir are actually an engineer. HAHARyk600 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 1:27 pmI'm not gonna get into an argument. I went to engineering school for this stuff and was a certified mechanic for a dealership for a few years and worked on many of the performance vehicles the dealership sold. The extra wear with a performance exhaust comes from it not being installed and/or tuned properly and the driver driving the vehicle harder (i.e. they want to hear their exhaust so they rev it all the time, stay at higher rpms purposely, etc.)Aufgeblssen47 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:40 amThat might be true, if stress vs. strain on metallic parts were linear. But it is not.
Obviously engines can handle only so much stress. So throwing something like a turbo or supercharger on the engine changes things if the engine wasn't designed for it. A small increase in power output from an exhaust is not going to change the long term health of the engine, once again as long as it's installed correctly and maintained properly.
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Actually, yes! Worked most recently working at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station for 7 years, launching Atlas & Titan rockets, but for 8 years after that, was a truck driver (actually owner-operator).RykerRyker52 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 11:22 amYou Sir are actually an engineer. HAHARyk600 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 1:27 pmI'm not gonna get into an argument. I went to engineering school for this stuff and was a certified mechanic for a dealership for a few years and worked on many of the performance vehicles the dealership sold. The extra wear with a performance exhaust comes from it not being installed and/or tuned properly and the driver driving the vehicle harder (i.e. they want to hear their exhaust so they rev it all the time, stay at higher rpms purposely, etc.)Aufgeblssen47 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:40 am
That might be true, if stress vs. strain on metallic parts were linear. But it is not.
Obviously engines can handle only so much stress. So throwing something like a turbo or supercharger on the engine changes things if the engine wasn't designed for it. A small increase in power output from an exhaust is not going to change the long term health of the engine, once again as long as it's installed correctly and maintained properly.
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Two Brothers reached out to us on Friday. We will be doing a video comparing the sounds on both our Ryker 600 & 900 in both stock form and with the two bros installed for those of you that may be interested. Stay tuned....
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Audio captured/recorded sounds quite a bit different that hearing it live.
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This is true Auf, but the audio differences are quite substantial and beneficial to someone on the fence about making the buying decision.Aufgeblssen47 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:09 amAudio captured/recorded sounds quite a bit different that hearing it live.
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